Wait, I'm expected to go to work tomorrow? Don't I get a personal day?

[elly427]

I spent yesterday wandering around the house aimlessly in my pjs. I kind of felt like someone had died - I certainly felt like I was grieving. Let's not talk about how I had to put a cold compress on my eyes to take down the swelling from crying. Oy.

I haven't had the energy to read everyone's posts yet. I will!

But first, a question:



How did Kara's body end up on cylon earth?

I had a lot of follow up questions, but I deleted them because I really have no idea how it got there. Did I miss the explanation for this?

Er, if you please, not too much rage in the comments. I am still trying to hang on to my zen. :)

Comments

[dionusia.livejournal.com]

No explanation was given. So.

Angels carried it there?

IDK!

[canadiangirl-86.livejournal.com]

Er, uh, err....

*shuts mouth, goes to happy place*

:D

[cirakaite.livejournal.com]

I'm guessing that she did find her way there and died, or that Hand of God intervened and moved the viper there as part of the divine plan. It was never directly addressed, as far as I remember . . . then again, I've been kind of not paying attention this season unless Kara AND Lee were on screen, so I may have missed it.

[catku.livejournal.com]

This is one of the biggest mind frak plot holes EVAR and part of the reason I'm so pissed . They had three hours and they could throw a bone our way on this?

Although millari gave some interesting thought as to why (enough to calm me down and talk me off the ledge) but not how.

[elzed.livejournal.com]

Babes, tread warily when reading other people's reax, because there is a lot of rage and upset out there!

And no - no explanation given for Kara's body. Except that I suspect it's supposed to be what was left after Lee saw her Viper explode. Even if that doesn't quite work out... (and yes, it was probably transported instantly to fake!Earth).

Sigh.

[effervescent.livejournal.com]

My understanding is that that's where she actually crashed the first time around... So, she resurrected, led the fleet to the original Earth so that both Cylons and humans could see that the cycle would repeat if they weren't careful. Then had the vision of the second coordinates that took them to the second Earth. I think basically the first journey to the original Earth was the catalyst that lead them to make the effort to break the cycle.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I just - I mean, she had pictures of earth when she came back, right? And didn't it look like our earth? With the right continents and stuff? And I realized after the fact they never showed cylon-pseudo-earth from space so we could see the land masses. So how did her body end up there? Because according to Baltar, it was her body.

I NEED TO KNOW, PLS.

Er, that's not directed at you, per se. ;)

[elly427.livejournal.com]

AHHHHHH I LOVE YOUR ICON.

Remember flirty pilots? Remember how great they were, with their stammering and their being cute and knees that looked pretty good?

That is what I am remembering right now!

[pathstotread.livejournal.com]

I'm disappointed with certain things about the finale, but I'm trying to stay Zen too. We can be Zen together. I shall use a Charlie Crews icon to demonstrate my Zen-ness.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I don't think we did get an explanation, and since I realized it's been driving me NUTS. Why?! Why have Kara freak out and burn her own body and go through an existential crisis if you are not going to explain it? WHY?!

Purely rhetorical questions, of course. ;)

[canadiangirl-86.livejournal.com]

ELLY YOU ARE BRINGING ON THE RAGE PLEASE MAKE IT STOP.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

SORRY I THOUGHT I WAS HELPING OMG.

SORRY SORRY SORRY.

[http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/]

*hugs*

I have absolutely no idea. I guess we're just supposed to handwave all that since she is An Angel. But still. Maybe she did land on Cylon Earth, died, and Angel Kara was the one who magically returned to the fleet. Or something. At this point, I'm just going with the flow.

P.S. Check your e-mail. :)

[canadiangirl-86.livejournal.com]

LOL IT'S OK I STILL LOVE YOU.

[cirakaite.livejournal.com]

There's a lot of "whys" when it comes to the final season, mostly revolving around Kara. I'm not entirely sure RDM knew what do with her. The whole Daniel storyline, her father's appearance in her head, the Earth-melody and coordinates . . . I wish he'd had some sort of basic plan from the beginning, just to avoid that sort of mess.

[latteaddict.livejournal.com]

I have no idea. Her viper obviously blew up into spectacular pieces before Lee's eyes in the mandala and yet she was burnt to a crisp in her cockpit on Cylon Earth amongst scattered pieces and neither of those things explain the physical brand new Viper that sat in Galactica's hangar deck. I honestly think the writers wrote themselves in a corner and just hoped they would be able to make it all fit in the end.

I think if they had gone the Daniel route and made Kara the first hybrid and after she died in Maelstrom it was actually the Colony that spat out a brand new Kara and Viper it would've been more tangible, explainable and satisfying. I guess two reasons they couldn't were that Kara being the first hybrid would diminish Hera's specialness and too much hype and importance had been built up to retcon Hera. Plus if Kara was a hybrid then all her projections of Leoben and her parents would've made sense once we learned Hera could project. Second, Kara came back with her tattoos, which couldn't have happened if she was a resurrected hybrid, they come out as brand new as her Viper did. So maybe that little detail also prevented Ron from going there. Plus a hybrid Kara would've been able to stay with Lee and have sex in fields for the rest of their lives. But then why would Ron want to do that.

[the-sun-is-up.livejournal.com]

GOD DID IT.

Uh, the truth is I have no idea. Wormhole? Plothole? Who knows.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I have read enough - I get it, and I understand why people are angry. I think I'm more sad and woeful than mad. I am sort of glad we're all this passionate about the ship and the show. (Oh, show!)

I just - didn't her viper explode? I mean, we saw that, right? Please don't tell me I am going to have to listen to Ron's podcast for an explanation. Anything but that!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I get that sort of, especially as the catalyst to break the cycle. I just don't understand how she ended up there. Didn't her ship explode? Did she get sucked down a wormhole (anything but a wormhole!)?

Oh show. I need at least another ep for answers to all of my questions!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I offer my ZENBUN icon in return.

(I think I might still be at the stage where it's zen or tears, and I can't cry anymore or I will be puffy faced at work tomorrow and have to make up lies about why. Sobbing "my shooooooowwwwwwwwww" is going to get me laughed at.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

*clings*

I am willing to handwave a lot, but this just seems like a huge hole. Oh show.

Email! On it! :)

[effervescent.livejournal.com]

Who knows, that might be meant to be part of the journey, so it was engineered by the higher power - Kara seeing her body - or it could be that the writers didn't think about it closely enough :P Though in S1 we did have Boomer and Helo landing on Caprica apparently pretty easily, so...

ETA: I completely forgot that the ship supposedly broke up before Lee's eyes - I need to rewatch that scene, to see how it actually looked on screen. But considering her path at the end, I think that it was probably engineered, to get her questioning herself, that sort of thing. Part of her journey, as she said at the end.

[http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/]

I think if they had gone the Daniel route and made Kara the first hybrid and after she died in Maelstrom it was actually the Colony that spat out a brand new Kara and Viper it would've been more tangible, explainable and satisfying.

Ah! That works for me. A fairly simple explanation that would've fit within the episode while still giving us even a tiny bit more closure. Sigh.

Did you hear RDM's explanation about the Daniel thing? He said that Daniel was always meant to be a throwaway line in "No Exit", as a way to setup the Cain/Abel thing with Cavil (plus, to explain the numbering of the models and how Ellen felt an affection for the "artistic" one.) But, internet fans being what we are, we created a huge backstory for Daniel and gave him an importance to the overall plot that he was never intended to have. RDM seemed rather astonished by it, and he "set the record straight" in the 4.19 podcast because he didn't want fans to go into the finale expecting a storyline that wasn't going to happen. I can kinda sorta understand this, even if it is pretty damn frustrating. I just wish that the writers had realized that people would seize upon that "throwaway" reference, because it could've been used SO well in the finale.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

The viper on earth was mostly in one crispy piece, right? Like maybe the fuel tank blew up after she landed? I feel like what we saw indicated she made it to cylon earth in one piece and then blew itself up.

I'm not so concerned about the new viper - if she was an angel, why not send her back with a shiny new toy?

Kara-as-hybrid makes a lot of sense even if the cylons weren't the ones to pop out a new body. I know Ron has said that Daniel wasn't her father, but I don't know if I care what Ron says. Authorial intent, blah blah blah. I'll take what I get on screen!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

HA.

Some kind of hole, anyways.