Wait, I'm expected to go to work tomorrow? Don't I get a personal day?

[elly427]

I spent yesterday wandering around the house aimlessly in my pjs. I kind of felt like someone had died - I certainly felt like I was grieving. Let's not talk about how I had to put a cold compress on my eyes to take down the swelling from crying. Oy.

I haven't had the energy to read everyone's posts yet. I will!

But first, a question:



How did Kara's body end up on cylon earth?

I had a lot of follow up questions, but I deleted them because I really have no idea how it got there. Did I miss the explanation for this?

Er, if you please, not too much rage in the comments. I am still trying to hang on to my zen. :)

Comments

[dionusia.livejournal.com]

No explanation was given. So.

Angels carried it there?

IDK!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I just - I mean, she had pictures of earth when she came back, right? And didn't it look like our earth? With the right continents and stuff? And I realized after the fact they never showed cylon-pseudo-earth from space so we could see the land masses. So how did her body end up there? Because according to Baltar, it was her body.

I NEED TO KNOW, PLS.

Er, that's not directed at you, per se. ;)

[canadiangirl-86.livejournal.com]

Er, uh, err....

*shuts mouth, goes to happy place*

:D

[elly427.livejournal.com]

AHHHHHH I LOVE YOUR ICON.

Remember flirty pilots? Remember how great they were, with their stammering and their being cute and knees that looked pretty good?

That is what I am remembering right now!

[cirakaite.livejournal.com]

I'm guessing that she did find her way there and died, or that Hand of God intervened and moved the viper there as part of the divine plan. It was never directly addressed, as far as I remember . . . then again, I've been kind of not paying attention this season unless Kara AND Lee were on screen, so I may have missed it.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I don't think we did get an explanation, and since I realized it's been driving me NUTS. Why?! Why have Kara freak out and burn her own body and go through an existential crisis if you are not going to explain it? WHY?!

Purely rhetorical questions, of course. ;)

[catku.livejournal.com]

This is one of the biggest mind frak plot holes EVAR and part of the reason I'm so pissed . They had three hours and they could throw a bone our way on this?

Although millari gave some interesting thought as to why (enough to calm me down and talk me off the ledge) but not how.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I know - it seems like they thought they explained it but didn't. I refuse to have to listen to a podcast to find out what happened!

[elzed.livejournal.com]

Babes, tread warily when reading other people's reax, because there is a lot of rage and upset out there!

And no - no explanation given for Kara's body. Except that I suspect it's supposed to be what was left after Lee saw her Viper explode. Even if that doesn't quite work out... (and yes, it was probably transported instantly to fake!Earth).

Sigh.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I have read enough - I get it, and I understand why people are angry. I think I'm more sad and woeful than mad. I am sort of glad we're all this passionate about the ship and the show. (Oh, show!)

I just - didn't her viper explode? I mean, we saw that, right? Please don't tell me I am going to have to listen to Ron's podcast for an explanation. Anything but that!

[effervescent.livejournal.com]

My understanding is that that's where she actually crashed the first time around... So, she resurrected, led the fleet to the original Earth so that both Cylons and humans could see that the cycle would repeat if they weren't careful. Then had the vision of the second coordinates that took them to the second Earth. I think basically the first journey to the original Earth was the catalyst that lead them to make the effort to break the cycle.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I get that sort of, especially as the catalyst to break the cycle. I just don't understand how she ended up there. Didn't her ship explode? Did she get sucked down a wormhole (anything but a wormhole!)?

Oh show. I need at least another ep for answers to all of my questions!

[pathstotread.livejournal.com]

I'm disappointed with certain things about the finale, but I'm trying to stay Zen too. We can be Zen together. I shall use a Charlie Crews icon to demonstrate my Zen-ness.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I offer my ZENBUN icon in return.

(I think I might still be at the stage where it's zen or tears, and I can't cry anymore or I will be puffy faced at work tomorrow and have to make up lies about why. Sobbing "my shooooooowwwwwwwwww" is going to get me laughed at.

[sarmoti.livejournal.com]

Maybe what I need is to dig a hole, fill it up! I'll try that in my sandbox tomorrow. :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/]

*hugs*

I have absolutely no idea. I guess we're just supposed to handwave all that since she is An Angel. But still. Maybe she did land on Cylon Earth, died, and Angel Kara was the one who magically returned to the fleet. Or something. At this point, I'm just going with the flow.

P.S. Check your e-mail. :)

[elly427.livejournal.com]

*clings*

I am willing to handwave a lot, but this just seems like a huge hole. Oh show.

Email! On it! :)

[latteaddict.livejournal.com]

I have no idea. Her viper obviously blew up into spectacular pieces before Lee's eyes in the mandala and yet she was burnt to a crisp in her cockpit on Cylon Earth amongst scattered pieces and neither of those things explain the physical brand new Viper that sat in Galactica's hangar deck. I honestly think the writers wrote themselves in a corner and just hoped they would be able to make it all fit in the end.

I think if they had gone the Daniel route and made Kara the first hybrid and after she died in Maelstrom it was actually the Colony that spat out a brand new Kara and Viper it would've been more tangible, explainable and satisfying. I guess two reasons they couldn't were that Kara being the first hybrid would diminish Hera's specialness and too much hype and importance had been built up to retcon Hera. Plus if Kara was a hybrid then all her projections of Leoben and her parents would've made sense once we learned Hera could project. Second, Kara came back with her tattoos, which couldn't have happened if she was a resurrected hybrid, they come out as brand new as her Viper did. So maybe that little detail also prevented Ron from going there. Plus a hybrid Kara would've been able to stay with Lee and have sex in fields for the rest of their lives. But then why would Ron want to do that.

[http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/]

I think if they had gone the Daniel route and made Kara the first hybrid and after she died in Maelstrom it was actually the Colony that spat out a brand new Kara and Viper it would've been more tangible, explainable and satisfying.

Ah! That works for me. A fairly simple explanation that would've fit within the episode while still giving us even a tiny bit more closure. Sigh.

Did you hear RDM's explanation about the Daniel thing? He said that Daniel was always meant to be a throwaway line in "No Exit", as a way to setup the Cain/Abel thing with Cavil (plus, to explain the numbering of the models and how Ellen felt an affection for the "artistic" one.) But, internet fans being what we are, we created a huge backstory for Daniel and gave him an importance to the overall plot that he was never intended to have. RDM seemed rather astonished by it, and he "set the record straight" in the 4.19 podcast because he didn't want fans to go into the finale expecting a storyline that wasn't going to happen. I can kinda sorta understand this, even if it is pretty damn frustrating. I just wish that the writers had realized that people would seize upon that "throwaway" reference, because it could've been used SO well in the finale.

[the-sun-is-up.livejournal.com]

GOD DID IT.

Uh, the truth is I have no idea. Wormhole? Plothole? Who knows.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

HA.

Some kind of hole, anyways.

[shah-of-blah.livejournal.com]

My understanding, such as it is, basically boils down to divine intervention. Kara (or her Viper anyway) had to get to nuked!Earth so that she could send out the signal (um, to herself). And Earth being so far away, the only way to get her there was for her to die, because in "the space between life and death" the gods could do whatever they wanted with her, i.e. magically transport her to Earth, where she then crashlanded (I'm guessing her Viper was burned/in pieces from entering the atmosphere?). And then the gods scooped her up again and sent her to the nebula.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

This makes sense to me logically but I am still stuck on seeing her blow up when she hit the hard deck. But I suppose if the gods/god are/is magically transporting her all over the universe, I should handwave that.

Man. If Ron can give us throw away lines about a 13th cylon, could we not have gotten one about Kara?m *grumble grumble grumble*

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I have a long and fraught relationship with wormholes in sci fi tv (Farscape, Stargate, I am looking at you) so I kind of don't want that to be the case, but it does make the most sense, I guess. Excepting for Lee and the audience seeing her ship blow up, but I guess enough of her and her ship could have made it though.

I didn't even realize they didn't explain it until sometime yesterday afternoon when I was all "OMG!" And even then I figured I had just missed something. Le sigh.

[indigo419.livejournal.com]

I certainly felt like I was grieving

I know. I feel like I just went through a really bad breakup, and everyone should see the pain radiating off me in waves. I keep looking at reactions, and thinking how I should reply, and then... I wander off aimlessly again.

*more hugs*

[sarmoti.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean about the wandering and the pjs. I didn't even take a shower yesterday. I'm really glad BSG was on Friday cause it allows time for me to DEAL over the weekend and compose myself before going back to work. It really did not work for me when BSG aired on Sunday that one season.

As others have stated, my initial assumption was just that she got sucked into the maelstrom and on the other side of it was Earth.

Of course, I'd forgotten that we saw her ship get completely blown to smithereens, so maybe that doesn't hold up.

I have no answers, only more questions!

[bop-radar.livejournal.com]

I am so sorry. (((HUGS)))

I read everyone else's comments with great interest because I had NO idea about that either (but it seems very very mean to put an angel with an inner life resembling that of a normal human through that trauma... *huffs*).

[all-shine-on.livejournal.com]

Hi there! This is random, but what are you going to do? I'm just dropping a note to say that I just friended you :) You like Pilots! and Vancouver and are Canadian and U2! That pretty much makes you excellent friend material to me.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Hey! Always happy to have one more pilots fan around! :D