The Kara'n'Lee Fun Time Variety Buddy Cop Hour

[elly427]

4.13 - The Oath

- I would watch the Karan'Lee BuddyCops! show every week. I am sure that surprises no one.

Really, I'm just happy to see Kara looking like she's doing something other than angsting and Lee with a haircut! Whooot for no longer having his hair brush his collar as much! kicking some ass again.

- I'm not going to lie or sugar coat it: I have very little time or patience for the Adama/Roslin relationship. Not because I object to old people kissing (though I kind of do, and so do the other characters as judging by everyone's reaction) but for other reasons.

They - and here is where I suppose I will be alone - they remind me of Holden Caufield from Catcher in the Rye. I remember reading it in high school and being so pissed at Holden. He had a family and friends and people who worried about him and he was jaunting off to New York to do stupid things, the idiot. It's the same way I feel about Laura and Bill. You have responsibilities. I am sorry if you would rather stare moonily into each other's eyes, but you can't. Look where that's gotten you.

(I think there is a larger point here - I was thinking about this today, thinking about Kara's comment about how children replace their parents. I think this is going to be a big theme for the rest of the season. As much as I would have liked to see an all Kara-and-Lee, all naked revue, they are the ones left to step up and figure out how to take down Gaeta this time. Roslin's gone, Adama is offering himself as a sacrificial lamb. Kara and Lee are hiding in the bowels of the ship having a lot of hawt sex figuring out how to take that rat weasel Gaeta down.

Also: Laura and Gaius are one of my favorite duos on this show, I am realizing. More Baltar (I have never said that before.)

- Alright, let's talk about it: That Lee/Kara smooooooch. I cheered. I did the victory arms accompanied by a "whoooooooooooo!" I have watched it more than once. I understand it was no declaration of eternal love, but hot damn! There's my pilots! Proof of, if nothing ese, the fact that Kara really wanted to plant one on Lee after some of those dog fights. And Lee's adorable, confuzzled "whaaaa? I am trying not to be too pleased by this turn of events because of the chaos surrounding us but I TOTALLY AM PLEASED OMG" expression. And Kara! So alive and unmopey! Kicking ass and taking names! Yes! This is the show I am interested in, Ron Moore. Less moping, more ass-kicking!

(I just watched that scene again. God I've missed those two. )

(Dear Jamie: Okay, we get it. Lee's thing is putting his hands on Kara's face when she kisses him. Yes. Understood. It does not need to happen every time. (I am not complaining! Well, I sort of am. Shut up, Elly. Ok.)

Alright, who's got money on whether they stopped for a quick, life-affirming fuck against a wall while they were out and about? Because I will put money on that, yes.


Other notes:

- Kara in the hanger bay? Shooting things? HOT DAMN. THAT'S OUR GIRL. Saving Princess Lee!

- SEELIX. Mothefuckin' DIANA SEELIX, ladies and gentlemen. Man. That was . . . uncomfortable and incredibly dehumanizing.

- Who else was screaming "Not the face! Not his beautiful face!!!!" when they attacked Anders (and Helo, for that matter?)?

- TYROL. Man I loved him in this ep. So in charge! So capable! Inspriing as much loyalty as Gaeta, in his way, even though he is a cylon, which I kind of forgot until now. He's a cylon and he still managed to get an info network up and running.

- That poor guy who got shot protecting Adama in the CIC: Was I the only one who got the sense Adama couldn't remember his name? Way to keep referring to him as "That Boy." Oy.

- Also: Felix Gaeta, evil mastermind. Who knew? You could see his mind working at points. Such a smart guy, so many balls in the air, and ruthless to boot. Man.

- Related: HOSHI. Man, Felix, you totally should have gotten Hoshi on your side.

Again, my favorite episode in a very, very long time.

Comments

[indigo419.livejournal.com]

Chaffey, the guy who got shot, was mentioned in that episode where his wife's ghost is haunting him

OMGS you're right!! I knew that name sounded familiar. Thank you! Oh show, I love when you remember your continuity!!!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Dude. The continuity on this show is awesome!

And clearly Felix knew Hoshi well enough not to try to turn him. Oh, our boys.

[pathstotread.livejournal.com]

I have the same objections to Roslin/Adama that you do. Like, okay, I'm sorry that you're dying, I really am, but come on. (And I do not need to see naked cuddling, thank you!)

Aww, I kinda like Jamie/Lee's tic where he puts his hands on Kara's face. And I like that her expression of feeling alive includes making out with Lee. Not that I blame her.

And the idea that they're off frakking against a wall before they run off to deal with Gaeta is now canon. No one will convince me otherwise.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Oh, Carrie. YES. YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES to everything you said.

(And I do not need to see naked cuddling, thank you!) Unless it is pilots! Then I am fine with it! I am also fine
with my double standard in this case!

And the idea that they're off frakking against a wall before they run off to deal with Gaeta is now canon. No one will convince me otherwise.

DONE. Who can I convince to write this, though? *eyes flist*

[bijoux.livejournal.com]

Kara in the hanger bay? Shooting things? HOT DAMN. THAT'S OUR GIRL.

I gasped and then cheered so much at that moment. She should have shot Racetrack and that other dude, too. Hell, she should have shot... Skulls (is that his name?) in the face. DIE TRAITORS, DIE (hah, I'm so bloodthirsty)

Seelix... ugh, never liked her, and never will.

Tyrol was fantastic in this episode. He's a decent guy when it comes down to it, and loyal to Adama and the Galactica crew. I hope he makes it.

Poor Hoshi - I wonder what happened to him.

[indigo419.livejournal.com]

Poor Hoshi - I wonder what happened to him.

I kind of think that Gaeta had the Marines frog-march him as a cover-up, so that he wouldn't be tainted by his association with Felix. But I think Hoshi is probably appalled by the mutiny, and may yet turn against Felix. Just speculatin'.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Hell, she should have shot... Skulls (is that his name?) in the face. DIE TRAITORS, DIE (hah, I'm so bloodthirsty)

HELLS YEAH. I would seriously watch "Kara Thrace's Deadly Rampage Agasint Traitors (with bonus kissing and saving of her boyfried Lee!) ALOT."

Tyrol was fantastic in this episode. He's a decent guy when it comes down to it, and loyal to Adama and the Galactica crew.

I'm really interested to see what way his character jumps. I was struck by the thought that he might not have risked himself in the way he did were Nicky still his. Hmm. I can't wait to see where this goes! Show!

Poor Hoshi - I wonder what happened to him.

I think he got lead off to the brig with Adama and Tigh - but he wasn't with them later. Hmm.

[http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/]

Alright, who's got money on whether they stopped for a quick, life-affirming fuck against a wall while they were out and about? Because I will put money on that, yes.

I wholeheartedly believe that you should write this.

(Elly? That's our thing. You make fabulous Pilots suggestions, and I tell you to write them.)

REALLY good point about K/L basically taking over for A/R, especially with the callback to her "children replace their parents" line. It makes beautiful sense within the context of the season, though on a meta level I'm not sure RDM would sideline the parents, even in the final season when it makes perfect narrative sense, because they're The Stars. Hmm.

And yes, Kara was totally the white knight riding in to save the poor princess Lee. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

(Elly? That's our thing. You make fabulous Pilots suggestions, and I tell you to write them.)

And that is why I love you. *considers writing this*

though on a meta level I'm not sure RDM would sideline the parents, even in the final season when it makes perfect narrative sense

I think they could maybe do this without sidelining Eddie and Mary - maybe use them of an example of what not to do? Hmm.

And yes, Kara was totally the white knight riding in to save the poor princess Lee. Wouldn't have it any other way.

I DEMAND THIS CRACKFIC. Also, it reminds me of Jamie's comment that Lee is the Leia to Kara's Han Solo. Oh show!

[indigo419.livejournal.com]

Kara's comment about how children replace their parents. I think this is going to be a big theme for the rest of the season.

They have definitely been laying the groundwork for this all season long. But nicely, I think. Not a one-ep turnaround, but many, many callbacks. I was thinking about last week, when Roslin goes for a jog around the big G, and what ironic counterpoint it is to the opening scenes of the mini, with Kara running. And then A/R snuggling as if there was nothing else going on in the world. Such a contrast to K/L stepping up, Lee seeing the plays that he thinks Laura is supposed to be making, Kara sensing the wind turning before Adama does... It's just gorgeous. Such a sense of doom hanging over everything, and yet I dare to hope!

Laura and Gaius

I am really enjoying them too, and like you I've never been much for Gaius in the past. Fascinating to see them whirl through their mental databases of strategy, and try to game each other. Oh, show. Such bliss.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

what ironic counterpoint it is to the opening scenes of the mini, with Kara running.

Oh! Excellent point! I did notice she was dressed in 'Kara' casual wear. Hmm.

And Laura and Gaius - he really brings out the best in her in some ways - especially politically. I'm excited for them to be trapped on a basestar together again.

[zorb]

an all Kara-and-Lee, all naked revue

*cracks up for like five minutes straight*

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Hee!

You *know* you'd watch it!

[daybreak777.livejournal.com]

Alright, who's got money on whether they stopped for a quick, life-affirming fuck against a wall while they were out and about? Because I will put money on that, yes.
I second all life-affirming fraks against any walls or bulkheads in fic or in canon.

All in favor that Elly write this? AYE!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Man, why are you looking at me?

*whistles innocently*

[glamaphonic]

Alright, who's got money on whether they stopped for a quick, life-affirming fuck against a wall while they were out and about? Because I will put money on that, yes.

I would put money on it and uh kind of want to write fic about it.

(Dear Jamie: Okay, we get it. Lee's thing is putting his hands on Kara's face when she kisses him. Yes. Understood. It does not need to happen every time. (I am not complaining! Well, I sort of am. Shut up, Elly. Ok.)

I love that and never get tired of it happening every time because IN MY HEAD I MAKE UP THIS WHOLE RATIONALE WHEREIN HE DOES THIS BECAUSE IT IS KARA AND EVERY TIME HE KISSES HER HE HALF EXPECTS HER TO FLY AWAY BEFORE HE CAN BLINK AND HE WANTS TO HOLD HER THERE AND MAKE SURE SHES NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND IS ONLY HIS FOR JUST THAT MOMENT.

Because I am maybe crazy. But whatevs.

P.S. I too do not really like Adama/Roslin!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

i would put money on it and uh kind of want to write fic about it.

YES! RAWLES BSG FIC! I FEEL LIKE MAYBE I HAVE WON SOME SORT OF SECRET LOTTERY. WHOOT!

HE HALF EXPECTS HER TO FLY AWAY BEFORE HE CAN BLINK AND HE WANTS TO HOLD HER THERE AND MAKE SURE SHES NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND IS ONLY HIS FOR JUST THAT MOMENT.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT EXPLAINATION WITH WHICH I AGREE 400%.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

Their beautiful faces! Sam looks ok - i worry about poor Helo!

[jadengreen36.livejournal.com]

Alright, who's got money on whether they stopped for a quick, life-affirming fuck against a wall while they were out and about? Because I will put money on that, yes.

MAKE IT SO, Elly!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

HEY! I will . . . try. ;)

[liminalliz.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD ELLY THIS EPISODE.

I THOUGHT THAT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH BSG WAS LIKE TAKING TOO MUCH ECSTASY IN THAT I WOULD NEVER REACH THAT HIGH OF 2005 AGAIN.


I WAS. APPARENTLY. VERY VERY WRONG?!








(wallsex! AND THEN CLAIRZA WROTE IT!!!!!!!!!!) oh my god we few, we lucky few, we band of crazy pilotshipping fangirls. <3

[elly427.livejournal.com]

LIZZEN. LIZZEN OMG. PIIIIIIIILOTTTTTTTSSS! THE FANGIRLING HAS REACHED NEW HEIGHTS! OH SHIP! OH SHOW! OH PILOTS!

AND CLAIRA! I LOVES HER! Now there is no need for me to write it! BWHAHAHAHAHA.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Lee's adorable, confuzzled "whaaaa? I am trying not to be too pleased by this turn of events because of the chaos surrounding us but I TOTALLY AM PLEASED OMG" expression

YES TOTALLY FOR THE WIN!

And CHIEF! Chief was awesome. He's the only cylon I totally love. I feel some chief fic coming on, maybe after next week's ep.

Less moping, more ass kicking
SO SAY WE ALL!

Kara got to be right and not guilty for a change. Love it.

Felix was pretty clever, but he's going to have to die for it now.

[elly427.livejournal.com]

OH SHOW. FTW! FTW!

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAY HERE.

[bop-radar.livejournal.com]

ITA re. Adama/Roslin.

Ruthless!Gaeta was so hot! *fans self*

And omg, pilots brought joy back to my heart!

[elly427.livejournal.com]

I may be the only one who misses old-skool competetant fawning Gaeta! The evil does take it to another level, however.

And yes, re: Adama/Roslin. I feel like I am letting down shipperdom in general, but I do not want!