And here it is, barring any huge changes which may come down the pipe.
Concessions
Author: elly427
Summary: He knows the way this started, in the middle of grief and loss and anger, doesn't bode well for a future, for any of them.
Classifications: Sam/Jack/Daniel, R/NC-17. Set at some future point
Disclaimer: Not mine. Thanks for bring it up.
Author's notes Thanks to
splash_the_cat and
nandamai for being my first betas, for dealing with my massive pronoun issues and being all-round nice people who made this much better than it was. You’re both peaches. All poor judgment and any mistakes are my own.
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woodface, because apparently she trusts me with the OTP.
A warning for the S/J diehards: this may not be the fic for you, though I don't think it's too bad. We'll see, I guess.
Concessions
Author: elly427
Summary: He knows the way this started, in the middle of grief and loss and anger, doesn't bode well for a future, for any of them.
Classifications: Sam/Jack/Daniel, R/NC-17. Set at some future point
Disclaimer: Not mine. Thanks for bring it up.
Author's notes Thanks to
And to
A warning for the S/J diehards: this may not be the fic for you, though I don't think it's too bad. We'll see, I guess.
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Must say that the beginning left me feeling a bit awkward but I got back on my feet when I found the ship. D/J just will never make sense to me but it seemed to work somehow.
And how can they understand it when he's not sure he does - this strange mix of him and her and Jack - when he's not sure how it happened, not sure if he joined Sam and Jack or she joined them. Daniel sometimes wonders if this is just Jack's way of taking care of his team and while he knows this situation is fucked up, he hopes it isn't that fucked up.
I really loved this paragraph, I think it made it all work for me.
Nice work, hon. Must say that this is the first threesome that I read that made sense because it doesn't make sense. *g*
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Thank you, I feel honoured *beams*
*knuffels*
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And thanks =oP
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Yay? :P
D/J just will never make sense to me but it seemed to work somehow.
It only works from a Daniel perspective for me. Which I think might say a lot. Ahem.
Must say that this is the first threesome that I read that made sense because it doesn't make sense. *g*
Bwhaha. Shh. Don't tell. otp, baybee, otp. :D
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It does! I once started writing a Sam/Daniel fic from Daniel's pov (don't worry it was unrequited). But then I realised that I just can't think like Daniel so I gave up.
Bwhaha. Shh. Don't tell. otp, baybee, otp. :D
*snickers* Will your next fic be the OTP? ;o)
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My muse willing. And oh, she'll be willing alright.
:P
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Wait. That sounds cool . . . :P
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I'm not usually a fan of anything but my OTP and messing with that is a dangerous game, but this was cool because I could think 'Poor Daniel. Hehe.' and it's there in the fic, too ;)
I heard a lot of canon-Daniel in this (in the attitude, I mean) so I think it was very well done.
I love Daniel's worries ("Daniel sometimes wonders if this is just Jack's way of taking care of his team and while he knows this situation is fucked up, he hopes it isn't that fucked up." ) and the way he found out about them. It's a peculiar, fucked up little idea, but it works.
Everything Jara said in her post - you've done everything right, from my S/J shippy point of view. Yey :P
Wonderful piece! *Knuffels*
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I don't like messing with the otp. :)
I heard a lot of canon-Daniel in this (in the attitude, I mean) so I think it was very well done.
Thank you. I don't particularily like Daniel all that much (don't tell anyone), so that's really nice to hear.
you've done everything right, from my S/J shippy point of view. Yey :P
I think the world needs more shippy S/J/D. But that's just me.
*Knuffels*
*feels warm and cuddly and knuffled* :) Thanks for the comments.
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Me! Me! Me! I've got one on the boil, so to speak.
And I really like this. You always write well anyway, and this has got that post Apocalyptic feel that I love, along with the sense that away from everything they've known just about anything is possible.
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Yay! I'm still not sure if I could ever buy this threesome on the screen but man do I like reading good fic about it, and heaven knows your will be good!
And I really like this.
Thank you.
the sense that away from everything they've known just about anything is possible.
I don't know if that was intentional, but yeah. That was part of what I was going for. They're not *normal* by any stretch of the imagination, and I'd imagine their mental health leaves a lot to be desired, so if anyone would think this sort of crazy scenario might just work, it's these three.
I'm now really looking forward to your S/J/D. Wheeeee!
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Eeek! Well, I keep leaving it, and then going back. Making it work is really hard, for much the same reasons as yours. I need to get the right feel, the sense that, given a certain situation, it could happen. I'm not going to give the dynamics of the relationship away, but it's not quite the same as yours.
have you read mayaan's "System of a Down"? It's sort of slashy, but worth a read, I think. Her "The Hanged Man" is good as well (if you can cope with Jack being all alpha over Daniel), and she keeps Sam in the picture as well.
http://the-janissary.com/Fiction/SystemOfADown.html
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If I could change one thing, it would be to have Teal'c come in and make it a 4-some ;-)
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T's arms :-)
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lalalalalalalalalalalala
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Yeah. I agree. Or, Sam decides she was never in love with him so that the J/D lovin' can continue without guilt. Makes me mad. I've got a nice little rant in woodface's lj is you're interested in more *snort*
What I like about this fic is that you address all of their feelings for each other.
Thank you!
If I could change one thing, it would be to have Teal'c come in and make it a 4-some ;-)
*Ponders sequel.*
*runs screaming in opposite direction*
I like Teal'c, I like Teal'c a lot, just, no. :)
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Very nice. I actually liked this, and I tend to run away from anything with Jack and Daniel and sexual situations in the same sentence. You're right, though, I can see it from Daniel's POV, but I still don't see Jack as having any real interest in touching Daniel that way. Maybe as a we-can-screw-the-same-woman-but-if-your-hand-touches-mine-you-pull-it-away kinda thing, and just casula touches, but not the more intimate vein.
And you read my fic, right? ;-)
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Here's the thing for me, because I do agree with you in a lot of ways and in most situations.
I do think these three can be pushed to a point where it's (love? sex? I'm not sure) not about gender, where it's about seeking comfort from someone who knows what's running through your head because they've been there and get it, who loves you - whatever form that love (sexual or not) takes, who can distract you from the fact that the world is falling down around your ears beause their world is falling too and you're both trying really hard not to notice.
Do I think anything like this will ever happen on the show? Nope. Do I want it to? Other than for the pretty, pretty visuals, no. I don't know that Jack would be able to 'share' with Daniel (especially Sam, what with him being all Mr. Alpha Male and her being what she is to him.) I don't really think Jack is attracted to Daniel (I'm still on the fence on the other. But that's something else entirely). But I do think they could all be so devasted and lost that getting sexually involved with one another doesn't seem so crazy, just seems like another way to stay a team.
But I babble. :)
And you read my fic, right? ;-)
Ooooo, no! *scurries off*
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So, what did you think of it? I know it's cliche, but hey, writing cliche can be really fun sometimes. :-)
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Oh, definintely and taking that into account this does work very nicely. Love can take many forms and I fully believe that one *can* love more than one person at a time.
As for Daniel, if I were to pick a male partner for him it would be Jonas all the way. Oh! A Daniel/Jonas/Sarah all the way! LOL! I need help...
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Oh my God, I am so on the Daniel/Jonas train. Totally. It's so . . . full circle. Apropos. *cough*Hot*cough*. Ahem.
Hon, if you need help, well, I do too.
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LOL! I can hear some slashers (and shippers) rolling in their graves right about now! ;-)
What sucks is that I can't find many decent fics with that pairing. :-(
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*smooch*
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Thabk you! Hopeful! Wow. Huh.
Julie, you're so cool. *smooooooooocccccchhhhhhheeeeeessssss*
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Julie = optimistic sap.
Julie, you're so cool.
*looks around* You sure you're talking to the right person? ;)
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I really am trying to come up with something, you know, *specific* and *constructive* and such to say... but all I can come up with is "Dude! Hot!"
It really is a shame that my Daniel and Sam are both such freaking prudes -- means I have to take all my sluttiness out on Janet -- because this is just great fun.
And very well-written and with lovely character bits (especially Daniel all over the place and Sam with the line about her looking to Jack for confirmation of her beauty... and I just *love* the words you put into her mouth about dinner! They just sound very *right*). So there. Even though I was distracted by the hotness I still manage *some* writing-related praise!
-- Little Red, who so totally wants in the middle of that action :)
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Dude, did you just call my Daniel and my Sam sluts? *g*
And thank you for finding something under the hotness. Bwhaha. I know it's hard. Bwhahah!
-- Little Red, who so totally wants in the middle of that action :)
They're such an unattractive bunch, why would you ever want something like *that*? *snorfle* But yes, thank you. Now, where's that angst you said you wrote, eh?
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Well, I didn't mean to, *exactly*, but they're certainly less uptight than mine. And wouldn't it be fun if they *were* sluts? SG-1, on the whole, needs to be a lot easier. More Captain Kirk, less Intergalactic Monastery of the Stargate.
Because if they're all easier... the chance that they will be easy with each other is higher! Not that True, Unrequited Love doesn't have its own high points, of course...
Now, where's that angst you said you wrote, eh?
The angst I wrote is actually still... being written and fretted over... but I posted a drabble for you, so that might buy me a day or two :)
-- Little Red
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Oh. My. God. *dies laughing. No, really.*
Can I put that on an icon?
Because if they're all easier... the chance that they will be easy with each other is higher! Not that True, Unrequited Love doesn't have its own high points, of course...
I think I might be okay if the show just sort of slowly disolved and gave way and became porn. Not completely okay with it, because I like the character bits and the actiona dn adventure and the world saving, but if they could just work in a little smut, a little nudity, I think I might be good with that. Ahem.
And yay for the angst drabble! Yay I say!
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Can I put that on an icon?
*bwah ha ha* I squealed with the spectacularly geeky joy of having said something cool enough to be put on an icon and then had to explain the squealing to my roommate:
him: "What? Oh no... is this a geeky online thing?"
me: *reads exchange of comments aloud*
him: "Okay, Little Red. Let's say the floor is the base minimum of geekiness. You are... right through the roof of this building. And the girl who is making the icon? Is, like, in orbit."
me: "... says the man who *just* told me I am 'a failure as a human being' for not recognizing Dr. Phlox from ENTERPRISE guest-starring on Stargate in the first TWO SECONDS of his being on screen."
him: "Oh, that's different! THAT was completely obvious! On the geek scale, really, I'm only about as high as that light switch."
me: "You are not! You threw FOOD at the TV when Sam and Jack didn't kiss in The Lost City!"
him: "Well... you write FANFIC!"
me: "..."
him: "I always win with that one, don't I?"
me: "I hate you."
him: "I know you do. Hand me the next DVD?"
So YES! My roommate can shut up and you should totally make an icon. Or... make two, so that I can have one! *bats eyes*
I'm ALWAYS complaining about how nobody Kirks it up on this show. Although we just bought season 6, and I have high hopes for Jonas as he attempts to get his swerve on with... really everybody! Too bad *he* wasn't around in the good ol' Hathor days...
I like the character bits and the action and adventure and the world saving, but if they could just work in a little smut, a little nudity, I think I might be good with that.
There have GOT to be some free-love planets out there, man! Why do they keep going to all these boring-ass repressed planets? I have such a longstanding fantasy of them arriving on a planet where raves are the normal social function, and SG-1 must attend (very... very... awkwardly...) a lovely Dyonisian rave, full of drugs and near-sex on the dance floor and very little clothing in order to negotiate with the leaders in the morning or something :). And perhaps get high, a bit, by accident, although the thought of Daniel rolling is... kinda scary! (And Teal'c, beloved evil Teal'c, would *so* take pictures for "accurate documentation in our mission report.")
And perhaps I'm scaring you off with my ill-begotten fanfic bunnies! These things entertain me :)
-- Little Red
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Oh thank God it's not just me. When
him: "Okay, Little Red. Let's say the floor is the base minimum of geekiness. You are... right through the roof of this building. And the girl who is making the icon? Is, like, in orbit."
Harumph. And yet I am strangely pleased to be the geekiest of the three of us. Huh. Proves his point, I guess.
him: "Well... you write FANFIC!"
me: "..."
him: "I always win with that one, don't I?"
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGHHAHAH! So, so, so true.
Funny story here - I'm almost positive my best friend reads (if not writes) Queer as Folk fanfic and I *know* my sister reads (if not writes) Harry Potter but none of ever talk about for fear of someone discovering our extreme geekitude. Heh. Yeah, nothing trumps writting fanfic. Heh.
I'm ALWAYS complaining about how nobody Kirks it up on this show.
And *that* is also going on an icon in some form. hmmm.
There have GOT to be some free-love planets out there, man! Why do they keep going to all these boring-ass repressed planets?
I have, honestly, wondered about this myself. Statisitcally impossible that they haven't yet. Unless they have and it's allllll a giant conspiracy.
I have such a longstanding fantasy of them arriving on a planet where raves are the normal social function, and SG-1 must attend (very... very... awkwardly...) a lovely Dyonisian rave, full of drugs and near-sex on the dance floor and very little clothing in order to negotiate with the leaders in the morning or something :).
Yes. Yes please. Oh hell yes. And why *hasn't* Dionysis popped up yet? Huh? That'd be one fun goa'uld. Fun in the most evil sense of the word. Ahem.
And perhaps get high, a bit, by accident, although the thought of Daniel rolling is... kinda scary!
Or amusing. And fairly in character in some ways. Huh.
(And Teal'c, beloved evil Teal'c, would *so* take pictures for "accurate documentation in our mission report.")
Oh he *SO* would! And he'd know nothing about the 'SG-1/Air force officers Gone Wild!!!' tapes that float around base and on the internet. Heee. Oh Teal'c. Yes. Totally. I'm sure Hammond would be very appriciative.
And perhaps I'm scaring you off with my ill-begotten fanfic bunnies! These things entertain me :)
*Eyes LittleRed* Plot bunnies, you say? You should, maybe, you know, if you've got time, WRITE THEM!!! Ack. Shove aside the angst if you have to. Heh. Nekkid and hig!Sg-1 would potentially be both amusing and hot. Heh.
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And yet I am strangely pleased to be the geekiest of the three of us.
It is better to be as one with your geekiness :)
Yeah, nothing trumps writting fanfic.
First of all: hee! about not discussing your various fanfic weaknesses with your friends and family... mine all have their geeky sides which makes it easier to have come out of the fanfic closet! And as for nothing trumping fanfic... you have seen the geek heirarchy, right?
Yes. Yes please. Oh hell yes. And why *hasn't* Dionysis popped up yet? Huh? That'd be one fun goa'uld. Fun in the most evil sense of the word.
"I will destroy your pithy defense forces and you will all HAIL ME AS YOUR GOD! And then we'll all party and get loaded. ROCK ON!"
And the lack of sexually liberated planets! What the hell!? I tried to figure out who the Egyptian version of Bacchus (which would be a VERY Goa'uldy name, don't you think?) / Dyonisus... is it Hathor? I have NEVER forgiven this show for killing her. But maybe she set up some free-love colony planets of her own before getting all entombed on Earth?
And perhaps get high, a bit, by accident, although the thought of Daniel rolling is... kinda scary!
Or amusing. And fairly in character in some ways. Huh.
Yeah... hee. Trying to think of the drugs of choice for each member of SG-1 is kinda fun :) And I *so* thought they were all baked during the campfire scene in 1969 before they actually started talking...
And he'd know nothing about the 'SG-1/Air force officers Gone Wild!!!' tapes that float around base and on the internet.
BWAH HA HA! TOTALLY at the next christmas party! And can you just imagine how Sam would beg to get the negatives? She would run all his errands to Yankee Candle for a YEAR.
*Eyes LittleRed* Plot bunnies, you say?
I was actually talking this idea up with
-- Little Red, who is *so* there to put her party-planning expertise into throwing SG-1 an alien rave! (and hey! I just figured out what purpose I could serve at the SGC!)
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I am wordy, to say the least. Yay, not the only one! who-hoo!
First of all: hee! about not discussing your various fanfic weaknesses with your friends and family... mine all have their geeky sides which makes it easier to have come out of the fanfic closet!
I think I'm jealous. I'd literally die if friends and family found out I write fanfic. Just curl up into a ball.
And as for nothing trumping fanfic... you have seen the geek heirarchy, right?
I have now and oh. my. God. Sweet heavenly Jesus. I've been trumped by furries. oh thank heavens. Hee!
"I will destroy your pithy defense forces and you will all HAIL ME AS YOUR GOD! And then we'll all party and get loaded. ROCK ON!"
I think you and I should write this show. And I'm a little afraid, were a goa'uld to say that to me, I'd be like "huh. cool. Okay."
BWAH HA HA! TOTALLY at the next christmas party! And can you just imagine how Sam would beg to get the negatives? She would run all his errands to Yankee Candle for a YEAR.
Can I just say hee! Yankee candle! I can't get those on this coast but man, the smell of those suckers takesme right back to the family vacation when I ten and we vistied one of their outlets in Maine. Dude.
I was actually talking this idea up with besyd and now I actually want to write it! Gaah! It's really all because I am *craving* a party and can't make one happen or even attend one due to the evil mono of funkilling doom! And it would be suuuuch bad!fic ! But bad!fic with potentially good!sex... or almost-sex... regardless, with Sam and Jack making out in a dark corner a whole lot... *cries* So many WIPs! So little brain!
I really, really, really, REALLY want you to write this because I want to read it. I kinda want to write it myself. Huh. The world needs more drunken SG-1 and poorly lit corners and making out and . . . *sigh*. Dude.
And also? I think you could write it so it's not badfic. Unless you intentionally want it to be badfic. And just so it's repeated again: fic with potentially good!sex... or almost-sex... regardless, with Sam and Jack making out in a dark corner a whole lot... Yeah. Guh. Yeah.
-- Little Red, who is *so* there to put her party-planning expertise into throwing SG-1 an alien rave! (and hey! I just figured out what purpose I could serve at the SGC!)
Bwhahahaha! Hey, move yourself a step up on the geek hierarchy by inserting yourself in the story. Hee!
Just in case you forgot: Write it!
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I thought I was going to. I forget how it actually came out. My co-ed fraternity is of open to geekiness (we're known alternately "the geek frat" and "the crazy house over there who throws all the awesome parties" -- which is such a happy combination!), so they pretty much just make fun of me. And read it, occasionally. And then make fun of me some more, but "because we love you!" I just found out last night that my childhood best friend has been reading my fanfic through livejournal (exam procrastination drives people to desperate measures), and although she has rarely, if ever, watched any of the shows I write for she still manages to think I'm cool. The moral of the story: Have friends who are "so cool!" in that "so geeky!" way.
I still am going to have to come up with some sort of warning system should I ever post smut to my website, though. "Parental Guidance Suggested: If you know me personally, please don't read this story. If you ignore this warning and read this story, please do not TELL me you read this story." Fortunately for me, I doubt my immediate fantasy wants to read anything that might force them to picture me having sex...
I think you and I should write this show. And I'm a little afraid, were a goa'uld to say that to me, I'd be like "huh. cool. Okay."
Would it need to get moved to a premium channel if we did write for this show?
And if a Goa'uld wanted to party with me? Dude! I'm pretty sure this would involve taking shots out of gilded shot glasses :)
Unless you intentionally want it to be badfic.
Well, it might be easier to write if I wasn't worried that someone might declare this a measure of my actual writing skillz. And yes, I can think of a way so that it wouldn't be badfic and actually have fanficky merit... but it would still have to be pretty tongue-in-cheek.
I really, really, really, REALLY want you to write this because I want to read it. I kinda want to write it myself.
If I don't, it's yours! Because, if you got my squeeetastic and probably sort of frightening email from 2 this morning, I am so totally your new #1 fanfic fan. We could also collaborate, maybe...? Although I've never done that and am not sure how it's done. Regardless, if you'd like to geek out together about possible ways the story could go down... so to speak... let me know :)
Hey, move yourself a step up on the geek hierarchy by inserting yourself in the story.
Yes! I'm the one skulking around in the background throwing the cocktail parties for the visiting alien ambassadors and spiking SG-1's drinks :) General Hammond: "I'm unclear as to why exactly your department needed to requisition a strobe light..."
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Thank you!